The North Star with Shaun King
W.O.C. at Work
4: Chicanas, Black Women, and Activism: A Conversation with Carmen Perez
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4: Chicanas, Black Women, and Activism: A Conversation with Carmen Perez

Rai and Blanca sit with activist, leader, wife, mom, and all-around badass, Carmen Perez about her identity as a Chicana woman. She also discusses Black and Brown co-conspiratorship and how this differs from allyship. Carmen also reveals never-before discussed details about her time as a primary organizer for The Women's March and how white, liberal women failed the women of color on that organizing team.

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The North Star with Shaun King
W.O.C. at Work
To be a female-identifying person of color in this country often means carrying a burden that is invisible to others. This is especially true when women of color are tasked with leading in white-dominant workspaces - particularly in the age of Black Lives Matter as organizations are grappling with their response to calls for social reform and are looking to Black women to lead this work. In this podcast, Rai King and Dr. Blanca Ruiz will explore what it means to be a W.O.C. at Work by elevating the voices of female-identifying leaders of color in order to shed light on their common experiences as they push for transformational change in organizations across the country.