A Marine runs his patriotic pickup truck into a church, shoots and kills worshippers, then sets the church on fire. Conservative outrage is oddly quiet.
My thought is you are working HARD in inciting more violence against the RIGHT with mistruths and lies. I will ask you, WHEN was the photo taken? How do you know he is a Trump supporter? You ASSUME he was by one photo of him in a t-shirt and another photo which CLAIMS to be his home. But do you KNOW for sure it is? I think not, you are only grasping at straws to incite violence against the RIGHT. Why didn't you also report in one of his final Facebook posts, he stated ... "Never trust a POTUS whose IQ is 30 points below your own ... and falling!". No MAGA would post anything like that, but Anti-Trumpers would. It is people (You are not a real investigative writer) would spread half-truths and misinformation. You are the reason the RIGHT is target by the violent LEFT. I will point out the 2023 stats that 21,765 LEFTIST committed violence compared to the RIGHT's 858. And I think anyone with half a brain cell will say violence is UP in 2025. How about you report on that instead of spreading false rumors as information is STILL coming out.
Shaun King got it ALL WRONG as per news breaking. The shooter was in a relationship with someone from that church and it went bad for him so he lashed out. Also, we on the RIGHT prefer to wait to see the reason before assuming. Also the shooter had become Anti-Trump which is clear on his Facebook post 5 day before the horrible event.
I was looking for the news to reveal who the killer was.... You are the only one to tell the truth. The only sense I had was when they said his truck had 2 American flags...
It may be naive of me, but in years past when I heard an investigation was being handed over to the FBI I thought it would be a good thing. That it meant the case garnered a level of respect and public interest. My heart sank when I heard that about this case though, and I wondered if we'd get any real information.
You mean like when Obama used the FBI against reporters and groups that targeted RIGHT leaning parties ... and that was before he turned the FBI on TRUMP. You should be glad for this new FBI who is open more than the previous ones.
Domestic Terrorism pure and simple. This perpetrator is a Terrorist. Shame on the media for keeping this farcical duality going. Imagine if he had been Muslim.
Excellent, clear and true analysis brother. I only wish this could get out somewhere in the mainstream. Maybe at least on KPFA or Common Dreams that can get to more people.
What do you think created the emotion “mad” in people after for ex. Charlie Kirk’s death? Was it simply one crazy person with a gun and his disgusting motives- which we could say of all people who act this way? Or was it the thousands of people claiming justification for his death, belittling grief and mocking his widow?
The initial "mad" was absolutely felt because there was an assumption that the shooter was somehow left leaning. When this was the case conservatives were calling for the death penalty and saying the left should own this murder. When the truth came out about this being a white boy from a conservative family the language and tone of the argument changed completely to one of "forgiving" his shooter.
The right justifies, threatens, belittles, and mocks violence against the left time and time again, and then cosplays as emotionally intelligent people, clutching their pearls, when some form of harm comes to one of their own, simultaneously and conveniently forgetting their normal discourse and responses.
Unlike the LEFT, we pray for the victims and wait to learn MORE about the shooter. And guess what, the shooter was ANTI TRUMP. He made a Facebook post 5 days before the horrible event stating, "Never trust a POTUS whose IQ is 30 points below your own ... and falling!" But I am sure you will see this as a TRUMP supporter. Also, it is being reported that he had a relationship with a woman of the Morman church, which seems more likely than the narrative you are pitifully trying to weave. Maybe you should LEARN to wait for more information before you go off on your LEFT-WING rambles spreading lies and inciting violence against the RIGHT.
I would never wear a swastika shirt, but it would be easy to mislead with one if I wanted to mislead folks. The conversation around mass shooters is not that veterans or trans peeps are violent, but that so often they are on medications that warn about suicidal or homicidal ideation as a side-effect. I say the supposed shooter of Charlie Kirk was not a patriot, though he wore a shirt with a flag. And I think the MAGA shirt was also a false flag. I read the entire post, and I was suggesting that the simple explanation is wrong.
Yes. It does. Would you wear a shirt that displays a swastika on it because you had nothing else to wear? Better yet, do you think the shooter would have worn a shirt with Kamala Harris' face on it if he weren't somehow connected and aligned with her beliefs?
Why bring in ptsd and trans folks? Whose jumping to conclusions? You should try reading the post before commenting on it.
Actually, it does NOT. I have worn many t-shirts that I was not a part of or cared about. It was JUST a shirt. I will inform you that the shooter did make anti-Trump posts on Facebook. The latest was ... "Never trust a POTUS whose IQ is 30 points below your own ... and falling!". No MAGA would say anything like this. If you wore a t-shirt with a skull on it, would you be supporting DEATH of others? If you wore a Budweiser or Jack Daniel t-shirt, would you support alcoholism? I think not. So, one photo of the shooter was worn supporting Trump .... way back in 2020 (I will assume unless you have a time stamp on the photo to change my mind). His crime was personal and NOT political. He had a relationship with someone from that church and it went bad for him. THIS IS WHAT IS BEING REPORTED.
Hi Shaun. It is infuriatingly hypocritical for the right to express outrage when people quote Charlie Kirk's OWN hateful rhetoric. Yet, in every instance where a Trump supporter has committed violence, there is silence. Until leaders on the right step up and fully condemn these acts and back their words with action nothing will change. On another note, I think your Objection & Answer section is brilliant!
What hateful rhetoric did Charlie Kirk state? Please be specific about his comment ... and not use assumptions. I have watched many Kirk debates and NEVER was he hateful. IN FACT, Charlie Kirk ALWAYS thanked the person he debated with and only stated FACTS and his opinion. But please, show me I am wrong. I am waiting.
So you post from the Guardian who is notorious for half-truths and misinformation. As always, ALL of Charlie Kirks responses are taken out of CONTEXT. But let Charlie Kirk say in his own words what he actually said and WHY. I am only taking the FIRST one just to keep this short. Please watch and do not ignore, I am ONLY trying to show you the truth. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1306612940862096
Even in the videos on the page you sent, they snip only what they want you to hear without any context. That is what people do who wish only to lie to you. I hope you do some research for your own knowledge and identify anyone who wants only to deceive you. I wish you a wonderful future and blessing to you and yours.
If you watch the video instead of ignoring it, you would see exactly what he said and realize your being lie to by the Guardian and other media. But being lied to is your right. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=24350794864530123
Would love your thoughts here.
My thought is you are working HARD in inciting more violence against the RIGHT with mistruths and lies. I will ask you, WHEN was the photo taken? How do you know he is a Trump supporter? You ASSUME he was by one photo of him in a t-shirt and another photo which CLAIMS to be his home. But do you KNOW for sure it is? I think not, you are only grasping at straws to incite violence against the RIGHT. Why didn't you also report in one of his final Facebook posts, he stated ... "Never trust a POTUS whose IQ is 30 points below your own ... and falling!". No MAGA would post anything like that, but Anti-Trumpers would. It is people (You are not a real investigative writer) would spread half-truths and misinformation. You are the reason the RIGHT is target by the violent LEFT. I will point out the 2023 stats that 21,765 LEFTIST committed violence compared to the RIGHT's 858. And I think anyone with half a brain cell will say violence is UP in 2025. How about you report on that instead of spreading false rumors as information is STILL coming out.
You educated me on this shooting before the news. I had to SEARCH to find coverage. Sure, the story is breaking… but the silence is pretty loud
It happened yesterday and was covered more at the time.
Shaun King got it ALL WRONG as per news breaking. The shooter was in a relationship with someone from that church and it went bad for him so he lashed out. Also, we on the RIGHT prefer to wait to see the reason before assuming. Also the shooter had become Anti-Trump which is clear on his Facebook post 5 day before the horrible event.
I was looking for the news to reveal who the killer was.... You are the only one to tell the truth. The only sense I had was when they said his truck had 2 American flags...
Shaun King LIED to you ... research more please.
It may be naive of me, but in years past when I heard an investigation was being handed over to the FBI I thought it would be a good thing. That it meant the case garnered a level of respect and public interest. My heart sank when I heard that about this case though, and I wondered if we'd get any real information.
You mean like when Obama used the FBI against reporters and groups that targeted RIGHT leaning parties ... and that was before he turned the FBI on TRUMP. You should be glad for this new FBI who is open more than the previous ones.
I agree with you 100%
That shirt looks photoshoped and fake. I can not find one available like it anywhere.
Thanks for so clearly pointing out this pernicious pattern Shaun - it rings true to me.
So sad that these folks have been so brainwashed to the desperation of violence against church parishioners!
Yes ...the LEFT has truly fallen off the cliff. We should pray for those who have turned to assaulting others who think differently than them.
Domestic Terrorism pure and simple. This perpetrator is a Terrorist. Shame on the media for keeping this farcical duality going. Imagine if he had been Muslim.
Everything—tragically, heartbreakingly, powerfully said 💔 You’re a strong Light in the Darkness
Excellent, clear and true analysis brother. I only wish this could get out somewhere in the mainstream. Maybe at least on KPFA or Common Dreams that can get to more people.
Thank you Shaun.
Uncle Sam's Misguided Children, indeed.
The outrage is the same. Evil being evil.
No, what I am saying is that today conservatives aren't mad. Just sad. But when the shooter is different they are mad and not sad.
What do you think created the emotion “mad” in people after for ex. Charlie Kirk’s death? Was it simply one crazy person with a gun and his disgusting motives- which we could say of all people who act this way? Or was it the thousands of people claiming justification for his death, belittling grief and mocking his widow?
The initial "mad" was absolutely felt because there was an assumption that the shooter was somehow left leaning. When this was the case conservatives were calling for the death penalty and saying the left should own this murder. When the truth came out about this being a white boy from a conservative family the language and tone of the argument changed completely to one of "forgiving" his shooter.
The right justifies, threatens, belittles, and mocks violence against the left time and time again, and then cosplays as emotionally intelligent people, clutching their pearls, when some form of harm comes to one of their own, simultaneously and conveniently forgetting their normal discourse and responses.
Unlike the LEFT, we pray for the victims and wait to learn MORE about the shooter. And guess what, the shooter was ANTI TRUMP. He made a Facebook post 5 days before the horrible event stating, "Never trust a POTUS whose IQ is 30 points below your own ... and falling!" But I am sure you will see this as a TRUMP supporter. Also, it is being reported that he had a relationship with a woman of the Morman church, which seems more likely than the narrative you are pitifully trying to weave. Maybe you should LEARN to wait for more information before you go off on your LEFT-WING rambles spreading lies and inciting violence against the RIGHT.
I would never wear a swastika shirt, but it would be easy to mislead with one if I wanted to mislead folks. The conversation around mass shooters is not that veterans or trans peeps are violent, but that so often they are on medications that warn about suicidal or homicidal ideation as a side-effect. I say the supposed shooter of Charlie Kirk was not a patriot, though he wore a shirt with a flag. And I think the MAGA shirt was also a false flag. I read the entire post, and I was suggesting that the simple explanation is wrong.
Does a MAGA shirt prove he was conservative? A veteran with PTSD? A trans person on SSRIs? Why jump to conclusions?
Yes. It does. Would you wear a shirt that displays a swastika on it because you had nothing else to wear? Better yet, do you think the shooter would have worn a shirt with Kamala Harris' face on it if he weren't somehow connected and aligned with her beliefs?
Why bring in ptsd and trans folks? Whose jumping to conclusions? You should try reading the post before commenting on it.
Actually, it does NOT. I have worn many t-shirts that I was not a part of or cared about. It was JUST a shirt. I will inform you that the shooter did make anti-Trump posts on Facebook. The latest was ... "Never trust a POTUS whose IQ is 30 points below your own ... and falling!". No MAGA would say anything like this. If you wore a t-shirt with a skull on it, would you be supporting DEATH of others? If you wore a Budweiser or Jack Daniel t-shirt, would you support alcoholism? I think not. So, one photo of the shooter was worn supporting Trump .... way back in 2020 (I will assume unless you have a time stamp on the photo to change my mind). His crime was personal and NOT political. He had a relationship with someone from that church and it went bad for him. THIS IS WHAT IS BEING REPORTED.
Hi Shaun. It is infuriatingly hypocritical for the right to express outrage when people quote Charlie Kirk's OWN hateful rhetoric. Yet, in every instance where a Trump supporter has committed violence, there is silence. Until leaders on the right step up and fully condemn these acts and back their words with action nothing will change. On another note, I think your Objection & Answer section is brilliant!
What hateful rhetoric did Charlie Kirk state? Please be specific about his comment ... and not use assumptions. I have watched many Kirk debates and NEVER was he hateful. IN FACT, Charlie Kirk ALWAYS thanked the person he debated with and only stated FACTS and his opinion. But please, show me I am wrong. I am waiting.
Here you go: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/charlie-kirk-quotes-beliefs
So you post from the Guardian who is notorious for half-truths and misinformation. As always, ALL of Charlie Kirks responses are taken out of CONTEXT. But let Charlie Kirk say in his own words what he actually said and WHY. I am only taking the FIRST one just to keep this short. Please watch and do not ignore, I am ONLY trying to show you the truth. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1306612940862096
The taken out of context argument. Sure.
Even in the videos on the page you sent, they snip only what they want you to hear without any context. That is what people do who wish only to lie to you. I hope you do some research for your own knowledge and identify anyone who wants only to deceive you. I wish you a wonderful future and blessing to you and yours.
If you watch the video instead of ignoring it, you would see exactly what he said and realize your being lie to by the Guardian and other media. But being lied to is your right. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=24350794864530123