For me, this is a big deal, and a massive clue into who this man really was. Rumors and details of this had existed before, but seeing it, and seeing the stamps of where he traveled, makes it clear he was up to something A LONG TIME AGO.
Hi Shaun, I am learning so much from your posts. I have a question for you - I am engaging with some Zionists in my organization who absolutely believe Israeli’s propaganda. I want to send them your posts to see if I can break through their illusions/delusions. I don’t want to put your column in jeopardy however.
The reason it may not work to share posts by Shaun King with those Zionists in your organisation is not because of any inadequacy of SK's arguments or evidence, but because those who believe Israel's lies don't care about Palestinians and ordinary Arabs. At all. So you are unlikely to persuade them to stop being Zionist with evidence of Israeli wrong-doing.
I don’t think this is true of all Zionists. I know many American Jews with ties to Israelis who are Holocaust survivors or their children. They don’t want to know because it’s so painful to acknowledge that the “safe haven for Jews” is myth that conceals something so horrific. Partly because American Jews and Israeli Jews have been fed a myth about Israel as a safe haven for Jews and a “miracle” many still do not know the real story of the depravity of Zionism from the beginning. I didn’t. But I don’t have any family in Israel, and so it was easier for me to come to terms with the deceit I was fed as a child. The way I woke up though is that I have Palestinian colleagues, and began to read articles from Mondoweiss which they would occasionally post - before 2023. Then after October 7, I began to read in earnest, and continue to learn, and to face the sadism. I talk in person now to people and it can make a difference for some.
Shaun’s post are so honest and visceral that I do pass them on to friends.
I got in a dispute recently on an online listserve and I wanted to forward Shaun’s post about Epstein and the decades of involvement with Israel and other Middle Eastern countries / partially bec it links to a hot issue in America right now and is not specifically about Palestine. I thought this might be a way to pull someone in who would than begin to see the other posts directly about Palestine and Israel’s depravity.
People don’t know so many essential things because of propoganda and the censorship in the mainstream media.
I asked my question originally bec I know Shaun has been banned many places and I don’t actually know who is on this online forum.
If everyone would read "A Time for Decision " 1943 by Sumner Wells ...it explains what was a horrible choice if decisions that could have been avoided . Instead Wells was labeled as a kooky instead of a truthful author because of his family being very prominently tied into the reality of the World War II and future demise of American people. He screamed it ..no one listened . This book should be a mandatory read if High School history and politics
True probably - but worth a try maybe. The Zios are not human.it seems - they love deceit, torture raoe, murder of millions and dance and sing while they carry out their tortures, murderers of babies a d all ages. They operate globally ie not just Israel or the Middle East whi ch they have looted for muti trillions of dollars in profit ( for Israel & its funders - the UK royals & gov the US for a century a century at least. Israel shown to be part of the hundreds of thousands being raped, starved. bombed, in Africa now where v valuable metals are looted for multi trillions in profit eg cobalt, lithium & more both needed for the panned Technocracy & just for use icomputers, mobile phones etc. Here in the UK the hiv is arresting, i.prisoning many thousands of peaceful protestors ahainst Usraels geno ides - elderly disabled etc 8 young people currently over 7 weeks on hunger strike re their terrible treatment in UK jails ...Israel owns msny governments you probably realise eg US, UK, Germany & many more.
I would love to never see Jeffrey Epstein's face or hear about him ever again, but this was truly a fascinating article.
My uninformed impression is that said passport was issued during a period of expansion of the international sex & drug movement (especially through New York) - however, passports of that kind now would fall under severe scrutiny without 'special dispensation'.
I once had the unfortunate experience of actually hearing him speak (recorded), & if it was truly his voice- anyone would be shocked at the weak, obsequious tonality of it.
-Certainly not the voice of one who would be in the center of that mess.
Interested in following how you unpack the theories. I’ve never understood how this guy got so wealthy just latching on to a sugar daddy. And the willing suspension of disbelief by all the elites who surrounded him speaks volumes about their judgment and character. We need a careful accounting of his finances, from every tax return, bank account, hedge fund, investment account, real-estate holding, jet purchase, he can be connected to. Follow the money. As you suggest, the current focus gets things backward.
I genuinely wonder if any of this would have been discovered if he hadn’t been a sexual predator. It’s terrible to think that in a way, it’s thanks to his victims seeking justice that people are digging and founding more to the story.
Great investigative writing. Impressive. Believable. Ugly politics at work. By the few rich controlling the masses. How they got rich and controlled the wealth and the markets. Blackmail, death, riches. Ugly. Great observations Shaun. Thank you. 🙏
May I add one fact not mentioned? I can't say about now, but in 1982, I know for a fact, that one cannot just apply for a visa to Saudi Arabia, and expect to get one. Saudi Arabia wasn't a tourist destination, other than for Hadj. There had to be a real reason to get it, and that reason was more than travel, tourism, or the like. It would definitely be worth knowing what company he was supposed to be manager of. From what I know, I would have to conclude that is was a real company or that visa would not have been issued. Can we find out what company that was?
According to a file by the US DOJ (EFTA00021576) there was 'apparently' a real Marius Fortelni, originally from Austria. No idea if they ever contacted him to confirm, in the file they just mentioned they looked up his website (judging by the name a real estate company) and according to his bio he did live in Saudi Arabia for some time. So this might have been a real passport that was altered after the fact.
According to a German newspaper report, the falsified passport was among the reasons Epstein was denied bail in his 2019 trial because he was deemed a flight risk, so (for the DOJ) this is not a new discovery. The website referenced in the DOJ document (likewise from 2019) is now defunct. I am not much of a sleuth (the DOJ files are at least partly indexed, so I just typed "Epstein Austrian Passport" into Google), so somebody with more investigative credentials than myself will have to follow up on this.
Shaun, I know you know how to write. I have been following forever. Would you for the love of G*d stop using ChatGPT? If you MUST use AI, try Claude or sudowrite. Your articles have just become unreadable.
Was the second passport for sure fraudulent? I’m seeing that in today’s world you can basically purchase citizenship in other countries legally , and get another passport , with enough money.
For me, this is a big deal, and a massive clue into who this man really was. Rumors and details of this had existed before, but seeing it, and seeing the stamps of where he traveled, makes it clear he was up to something A LONG TIME AGO.
Hi Shaun, I am learning so much from your posts. I have a question for you - I am engaging with some Zionists in my organization who absolutely believe Israeli’s propaganda. I want to send them your posts to see if I can break through their illusions/delusions. I don’t want to put your column in jeopardy however.
Can you let me know your thoughts?
I stand by every word I write. They are public. You can always share them.
The reason it may not work to share posts by Shaun King with those Zionists in your organisation is not because of any inadequacy of SK's arguments or evidence, but because those who believe Israel's lies don't care about Palestinians and ordinary Arabs. At all. So you are unlikely to persuade them to stop being Zionist with evidence of Israeli wrong-doing.
I don’t think this is true of all Zionists. I know many American Jews with ties to Israelis who are Holocaust survivors or their children. They don’t want to know because it’s so painful to acknowledge that the “safe haven for Jews” is myth that conceals something so horrific. Partly because American Jews and Israeli Jews have been fed a myth about Israel as a safe haven for Jews and a “miracle” many still do not know the real story of the depravity of Zionism from the beginning. I didn’t. But I don’t have any family in Israel, and so it was easier for me to come to terms with the deceit I was fed as a child. The way I woke up though is that I have Palestinian colleagues, and began to read articles from Mondoweiss which they would occasionally post - before 2023. Then after October 7, I began to read in earnest, and continue to learn, and to face the sadism. I talk in person now to people and it can make a difference for some.
Shaun’s post are so honest and visceral that I do pass them on to friends.
I got in a dispute recently on an online listserve and I wanted to forward Shaun’s post about Epstein and the decades of involvement with Israel and other Middle Eastern countries / partially bec it links to a hot issue in America right now and is not specifically about Palestine. I thought this might be a way to pull someone in who would than begin to see the other posts directly about Palestine and Israel’s depravity.
People don’t know so many essential things because of propoganda and the censorship in the mainstream media.
I asked my question originally bec I know Shaun has been banned many places and I don’t actually know who is on this online forum.
If everyone would read "A Time for Decision " 1943 by Sumner Wells ...it explains what was a horrible choice if decisions that could have been avoided . Instead Wells was labeled as a kooky instead of a truthful author because of his family being very prominently tied into the reality of the World War II and future demise of American people. He screamed it ..no one listened . This book should be a mandatory read if High School history and politics
True probably - but worth a try maybe. The Zios are not human.it seems - they love deceit, torture raoe, murder of millions and dance and sing while they carry out their tortures, murderers of babies a d all ages. They operate globally ie not just Israel or the Middle East whi ch they have looted for muti trillions of dollars in profit ( for Israel & its funders - the UK royals & gov the US for a century a century at least. Israel shown to be part of the hundreds of thousands being raped, starved. bombed, in Africa now where v valuable metals are looted for multi trillions in profit eg cobalt, lithium & more both needed for the panned Technocracy & just for use icomputers, mobile phones etc. Here in the UK the hiv is arresting, i.prisoning many thousands of peaceful protestors ahainst Usraels geno ides - elderly disabled etc 8 young people currently over 7 weeks on hunger strike re their terrible treatment in UK jails ...Israel owns msny governments you probably realise eg US, UK, Germany & many more.
Consider sharing https://www.israelismfilm.com/
I would love to never see Jeffrey Epstein's face or hear about him ever again, but this was truly a fascinating article.
My uninformed impression is that said passport was issued during a period of expansion of the international sex & drug movement (especially through New York) - however, passports of that kind now would fall under severe scrutiny without 'special dispensation'.
I once had the unfortunate experience of actually hearing him speak (recorded), & if it was truly his voice- anyone would be shocked at the weak, obsequious tonality of it.
-Certainly not the voice of one who would be in the center of that mess.
Yeah. He was a weak man that used money and threats to manipulate people all over the world.
A creature of their making- and at only 29 years old.
Happy Holidays!
Interested in following how you unpack the theories. I’ve never understood how this guy got so wealthy just latching on to a sugar daddy. And the willing suspension of disbelief by all the elites who surrounded him speaks volumes about their judgment and character. We need a careful accounting of his finances, from every tax return, bank account, hedge fund, investment account, real-estate holding, jet purchase, he can be connected to. Follow the money. As you suggest, the current focus gets things backward.
Indeed. Glad you see it
I genuinely wonder if any of this would have been discovered if he hadn’t been a sexual predator. It’s terrible to think that in a way, it’s thanks to his victims seeking justice that people are digging and founding more to the story.
Great investigative writing. Impressive. Believable. Ugly politics at work. By the few rich controlling the masses. How they got rich and controlled the wealth and the markets. Blackmail, death, riches. Ugly. Great observations Shaun. Thank you. 🙏
May I add one fact not mentioned? I can't say about now, but in 1982, I know for a fact, that one cannot just apply for a visa to Saudi Arabia, and expect to get one. Saudi Arabia wasn't a tourist destination, other than for Hadj. There had to be a real reason to get it, and that reason was more than travel, tourism, or the like. It would definitely be worth knowing what company he was supposed to be manager of. From what I know, I would have to conclude that is was a real company or that visa would not have been issued. Can we find out what company that was?
This is absolutely true.
According to a file by the US DOJ (EFTA00021576) there was 'apparently' a real Marius Fortelni, originally from Austria. No idea if they ever contacted him to confirm, in the file they just mentioned they looked up his website (judging by the name a real estate company) and according to his bio he did live in Saudi Arabia for some time. So this might have been a real passport that was altered after the fact.
Very interesting! Some enterprising journalist needs to contact him and find out what’s really going on with him and that company. Thank you!!
According to a German newspaper report, the falsified passport was among the reasons Epstein was denied bail in his 2019 trial because he was deemed a flight risk, so (for the DOJ) this is not a new discovery. The website referenced in the DOJ document (likewise from 2019) is now defunct. I am not much of a sleuth (the DOJ files are at least partly indexed, so I just typed "Epstein Austrian Passport" into Google), so somebody with more investigative credentials than myself will have to follow up on this.
Aipac and Epstein go together. Aipac provides Money. Epstein and associates provide Sex. its how Israel controls blackmail western countries.
https://open.substack.com/pub/morfmorford/p/there-is-no-honor?r=9hujo&utm_medium=ios&shareImageVariant=overlay
Curious what your thoughts are about Michael Wolff related to Epstein?
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1KUputN5PF/
Shaun, I know you know how to write. I have been following forever. Would you for the love of G*d stop using ChatGPT? If you MUST use AI, try Claude or sudowrite. Your articles have just become unreadable.
Was the second passport for sure fraudulent? I’m seeing that in today’s world you can basically purchase citizenship in other countries legally , and get another passport , with enough money.
Mossad operative, entrapping influential politicians and rich men with teenage sexual for future extortion
I’m a bit curious about what is redacted on the right edge of both pages.